OK, I have a bone to pick with a current trend in the English language. When did “That being said,” “With that said,” “Having said that,” “That said,” “With that being said,” and so on become so common? I don’t remember them being used several years ago. Now everyone is saying them, writing them, belching them, rapping them, and pissing me off by using them. Maybe they’re proper, but I don’t care. They don’t really mean anything. It’s kind of like saying, “Hey moron, did you get that? I said it, and I’ll tell you I said it just in case you don’t know I said it. So, listen up and let me tell you I said it because I like to repeat myself.”
On ESPN Sean Salisbury used them about every third sentence. Fortunately he’s no longer working on ESPN. He stunk, anyway. All of his time was spent screaming at John Clayton and calling him a Nerd in thirty different ways (I think he had a problem with the idea John didn’t play football). Another abuser is Stephen A. Smith, whose ridiculous rants are particularly annoying, with or without “That being said.” He still does some discussion of the NBA, but I don’t care about the NBA and can avoid his nonsense. Every time I watched a FOX NFL game, featuring Troy Aikman, I noticed he uses “Having said that” quite a lot. I like Troy, but the use of the phrase has to go. He’s on Monday Night Football now, so it’s hard to avoid Troy if you like football.
Perhaps it is correct English; I’m really not sure. What bothers me is how they have become so vogue. They are certainly overused by the media. Enough that it really gets on my nerves. The use of “For sure” was the same way a couple of decades ago. Eventually it went away. I’m concerned “With that being said” is so ingrained it may take a century or two to become archaic.
If you use “That being said” quite a lot, all I can say is you are a follower. You’ve heard it so much you are regurgitating it without even knowing. I forgive you, because society has pummeled you so much “With that being said,” you probably don’t even realize you’re a phrase junkie. Maybe there is something in our drinking water forcing our lemming behavior. I like the evolution of language. The writings of Chaucer and Shakespeare seem very strange to us today. We need an interpreter to understand the English that was contemporary during their time. College courses and entire curriculums are devoted to studying their words, with ongoing debates about their meaning. At the time those words were written they were understood by the lowliest of peasants as well as the upper crust of society. The Intelligentsia of today cannot come to terms with what exactly was meant back then. When was the last time you watched a Shakespeare movie or play and did not scratch your head just a few times during the performance?
I watch a lot of movies; history, action, drama, comedy, westerns, sci-fi, whatever. I don’t recall in any of them, regardless of the time period being depicted, “With that being said,” “That said,” “Having said that,” “With that said,” or “That being said,” ever uttered by any of the characters. It seems writers of dialogue don’t feel a need for the meaningless words among the thousands in their screenplays (they’re just a little busy picking the proper profanities for the scenes). The overuse seems to be a staple of today’s media, commentators and politicians.
Yeah, I like the evolution of our language. But the ride on the “With that being said,” train is becoming a bit much. Eventually the phrase will grow old and lose its glamour. Society will replace it with something else that will be spewed over and over and over to ad nauseum. That’s what we do. We run things into the ground, causing idiots like me to moan and groan about it. I just hope it goes away before I die. It will probably take too long, so my gravestone will convey my displeasure.
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I hate that phrase too and find I use it without even realizing it….media brainwashing. God help me.
I can no longer get through your Boomer’s without my poo-ter wanting and getting to close. I gave up on The Fair. And I am still very interested. That being said, today I got to your rantings and my poo-ter said it had to close. We recently moved. Do you suppose someone put a kaibash on my poo-ter? That being said, you have opened a can of worms. MY favorite is “at’ at the end of a sentence. I hope you are well. I have to see where my lunch is at.
Man. I’ve watched the Angelina Jolie video three times.
A couple of things bother me: When people use loose in place of lose and your in place of you’re.
Those two mistakes are very common.
P.S. The Angelina Jolie reference is to my mirror Blogspot Blog at http://Boomertwilight.BlogSpot.com. That site takes longer to load because of all the media in the sidebar, but if you are patient, you might like it.
I absolutely hate this phrase and I read/hear it five to ten times a day now. I googled specifically hoping to find a blog entry about it so I could vent in the comments section. People who say or write “having said that”, “that said”, or “that being said” should be flogged and water-boarded. I think I may have used it once or twice, before the current craze began, and always with the appropriate pronoun directly following it, but now that it has become the most popular phrase since “hella” came out of the Bay Area, I will never ever utter it again. Every time I hear or read it now it’s like nails on a chalkboard to me. I can’t stand it. It is a stupid, stupid thing to say. There has never before been a phrase so insidiously retarded that has spread so rapidly and so ubiquitously. Please, anyone who reads this, do me a favor by punching the next person who says it within your earshot. I’d really appreciate it.
By the way I think the trend originated from sportscasters, where many bad trends in language seem to come from, as the under-educated former-athletes who wind up with sportscasting jobs have such poor vocabulary and mental processes in general that they feel the need to pad their patter and banter with phases that they think make their pointless babbling seem more interesting, more important, and most of all, ironically, more erudite.